The Son-Rise Program Start Up, London, UK Answers to Frequently Asked Questions. How will The Son-Rise Program help my child successfully communicate with others? Verbal Communication Webinar. The registration cost covers your program course fees. For more details please download The Son-Rise Program. Travel information: Several. Rise - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Choosing to be autistic. Son- Rise is a multi faceted program designed to assist in building a child's attention span and communication abilities. Perhaps the emphasis on choice is in reference to the Option Institute and other books written by Barry Kaufman. Kaufman is on record that if the program is followed faithfully, most children will in fact choose not to be autistic and choose to come out of it. For example, People can't say, . The cases where autistic behaviors are reduced (or in rare cases, complete recovery) are similar to the cases where stroke victims regain some or all of their functions. Hence the benefit of a program such as Son- Rise. Basically, Son- Rise does not use force. So, when the child is ready, (s)he will eventually want to learn the skills, and get out of their . Annie. Tiger. Chucky (talk) 1. May 2. 00. 8 (UTC)I'm sorry, Annie: I'm not following. Can you please put here the exact text you disagree with from the article? Sandy. Georgia (Talk) 1. May 2. 00. 8 (UTC)Here is the paragraph Sandy. The Son-Rise Program was founded over thirty years ago by Barry and. The first step to starting a Son-Rise Program is to order the Son-Rise Starter Kit, which includes a.Game ideas from The Son-Rise Program. Georgia,The Son- Rise Program is a home- based program for children with autism spectrum disorders and other developmental disabilities. The program emphasizes eye contact, accepting the child without judgment, and engaging the child in a noncoercive way, and it hypothesizes that treated children will decide to become non- autistic. Former advertising executive Barry Neil Kaufman and his wife Samahria Lyte Kaufman developed Son- Rise in the late 1. Raun, who was diagnosed with autism as a toddler, and who is claimed to have gone from being autistic to neurotypical via the treatment. Whether Bluejay Young means if it's in a book Bears Kaufman wrote, it should be in c. I already asked the user to reply when he got a chance as well. Annie. Tiger. Chucky (talk) 2. May 2. 00. 8 (UTC). It seems to me you're inquiring about a talk page post that is a year and a half old, even though the talk comment is not reflected in the article text, so I'm still not seeing the problem. Sandy. Georgia (Talk) 2. May 2. 00. 8 (UTC)The cited source (Kaufman 1. Please see chapter 6, titled .
I don't see a similar use of the word . Perhaps we should change decide to choose in the lead paragraph? Eubulides (talk) 2. May 2. 00. 8 (UTC)Dear User: Eubuildes,I do not know how to follow that reference you told me about. I was only able to find multiple stores around the globe with the book. But, I was not able to even search through the book. So, I am not able to find what you are talking about. But, I think the article should not state choose or decide. Because, Son- Rise does not help the kid think, . But, Son- Rise gets the child to trust the person by knowing that they are not judged and someone likes what they like. Which is ASD's main core . They, then smile and make eye contact, because they want to and slowly, by slowly (if they are lucky) recover. They don't choose not to have autism. They choose, to smile, eye contact, play etc. For example, you can't (choose or decide) not to have Anxiety disorder. But, they can choose to listen to the advice about what can help them not be anxious and want to use the advice. I think we should not cite that context and put . I think we should not sort it. Since it doesn't make sense. I think he could of used a better way of describing it though. Please reply back at my talk page! Annie. Tiger. Chucky (talk) 0. May 2. 00. 8 (UTC)Annie, please try to confine your discussions to one place (this page); that will be easier for all involved. Also, Wiki sources don't have to be available online: Eubulides quoted the source above. Whatever we add to an article, it has to be based on the source, and Eubulides has provided what the source states. Sandy. Georgia (Talk) 0. May 2. 00. 8 (UTC)I see that this article has been marked for . I'm largely responsible for its current revision (as of March 5, 2. I would be interested in hearing specific suggestions on how it might be edited to make the point of view more neutral. Much of the text of the article I moved here from the Autism article. While I kept as much of the original text intact as I could out of respect for the previous author, I did excise or replace some words that struck me as a bit loaded with POV (e. On the other hand, a left intact several . Is that the POV you find objectionable? I tried to avoid wading into any of the disputes about whether or not Son- Rise is a cult, whether or not it promotes child abuse, and whether or not it is effective. I don't think statements either way on such questions can exist in an article that is supposed to have a . I simply spotted an new article that had been created by an unregistered user. Although all new articles are welcome, new articles by unregistered users can be a way of hiding vandalism from the watchlists. My first reading of the article gave me the impression that this article was created to draw attention to Son- Rise, and I was wary that the article might be a means of drawing internet traffic to their website. The prominence of external links in the body text, and commercial links to Amazon. The notice is an encouragement for the community to reach consensus on this and its realted article. Gareth Hughes 1. 2: 2. Mar 2. 00. 5 (UTC)I'm new to Wikipedia, so please be understanding if I happen to do something out of step with standard Wikipedia practice while I get up to speed. I plead ignorance in advance! Thanks for your explanation of why the article raised a red flag. I see now how your assessment was based more on style than content, and it makes sense. My choice of link styles, incidentally, was modeled after other links I saw (which I now know are nonstandard - - newbie error). It did strike me as ironic, though, that it was flagged for POV, because what prompted me to write the article in the first place was some text about Son- Rise in a subsection of the Autism article that, aside from being structurally awkward (spanning two list items), was decidedly not neutral. Anyway, after reading the guidelines about POV, I decided to replace it with a short single list item linking to a separate page, adding more descriptive text about Son- Rise, and moving the criticism links into the discussion (I see that you restored one of those criticisms to the articles reference section, so I'm deleting the same item from the discussion - - no sense duplicating). I understand that the ideal we strive for here is not absence of POV but a balanced (i. POV. In this case, however, the only POV included was anti- Son- Rise. Ultimately, the article should include both pro and anti perspectives, and I welcome efforts toward that end, but hunting down pro- Son- Rise opinions to balance the anti opinions is a project I don't have time for right now. I have no particular interest in the controversy, so I thought it best to start with a bare descriptive skeleton, and hope that others can provide opinions on both sides. Perhaps that isn't realistic. John Finlayson- Fife 1. Mar 2. 00. 5 (UTC)John, thank you for your comments. I really hope you do understand my actions, and that you know that it's nothing personal about you or the subject of the article. I was hoping that by flagging up that the neutrality of the article needed to be checked some of the contributors to the autism article might review this one. With this discussion, I felt that the best thing to do would be to remove the POV check notice and simply add the article to Category: Autism. It's good to see that you've created an account: I'll drop you the welcome message on your talk page. Gareth Hughes 1. 1: 1. Mar 2. 00. 5 (UTC)I've moved a few additions to the article into the discussion below, with my comments. As always, parents should investigate thoroughly before investing their child and their money. They list a two day training for parents in the ABA method which costs $1. Auditory Integration Therapy (broken up into 2. Son- Rise course to train parents that costs $1. While I'm personally inclined to agree with much of this, it is not a neutral point of view. Its clear intent is to persuade the reader not to pursue Son- Rise. Same goes for the comment about Raun Kaufman being an . Like DIR, Son- Rise is largely child- directed. As such, imitating normal behavior is neither a goal nor a likely point of arrival. Indeed, there's a lot more parent imitating the child going on than the other way around. Jfinlayson 0. 7: 1. May 2. 00. 5 (UTC)Someone copied a reference from this article into the body of the autism article, with accompanying polemic and another anti- cult link (http: //www. If someone has a different opinion about where such discussion belongs, let's hear the argument for that. I'm open to persuasion. Son- Rise is a relatively small, alternative program. There are a many more mainstream therapeutic interventions that deserve more attention in that Autism article. I wrote a section for RDI, because that's the program I'm most familiar with. I'd like to see more sections written by people with more knowledge about other programs. In the meantime, if someone is on a campaign to discourage people from pursuing Son- Rise for whatever reason, that's fine, but I would suggest that a more effective approach would be to constructively provide some descriptions of more promising alternatives. John Finlayson- Fife 2. Jul 2. 00. 5 (UTC)I've made some edits to this article after attending training for my own son, and have reviewed several of the prior listings as well. I can certainly state that the atmosphere and the training is not . As for the cost, one can go online and find computer programs, therapists, and etc. If one were to sum up the approach, it would be . Unfortunately this counts as original research and as such should not appear in Wikipedia. I asked for citations but none have been forthcoming, so I removed the paragraphs. Eubulides 0. 6: 3. October 2. 00. 7 (UTC)This is a difficult point.
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